1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,000 on this edition of Sightings. 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,000 I want to go away! 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,000 Sightings returns to Colorado's Black Forest 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,000 to help a terrified family resolve a frightening haunting. 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Whoa! You see it? 6 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,000 They're coming through right right here. 7 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,000 When three-year-old Sarah Skidmore disappeared 8 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,000 for three days in the Arizona desert, 9 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,000 her parents and police knew the only thing that could save her 10 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,000 would be a miracle. 11 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:29,000 I believe my sister, um, I was hurt in drugs. 12 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,000 We have a strong target return. 13 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,000 Later, a Sightings investigation continues in Canada 14 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,000 with an expedition that searches for debris from a crashed UFO. 15 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,000 The man at the base had told me that it was probably 16 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,000 the most intense thing next to the Cuban missile crisis. 17 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,000 And has medical science gone too far 18 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,000 in its attempt to farm body parts? 19 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,000 Welcome to Sightings. I'm Tim White. 20 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,000 During a recent Sightings ghost investigation 21 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,000 in Black Forest, Colorado, 22 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,000 our team recorded bizarre noises, images, and thermal imaging 23 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,000 that pointed to the presence of an ethereal form. 24 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,000 Now, that form is making its presence known in more concrete 25 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,000 and threatening ways. 26 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,000 Sightings correspondent Carla Wall traveled to Black Forest 27 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,000 and found a family in fear. 28 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,000 The sweet smell of pine, a gentle breeze, 29 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,000 a beautiful log cabin in the woods. 30 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,000 From the outside, there's no hint of the terror 31 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:00,000 that's been experienced inside the Lee Home in Black Forest, Colorado. 32 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,000 What is it? 33 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,000 I want to go away! 34 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,000 Okay, it's okay. It's okay. 35 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,000 I'm going to go away. 36 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,000 I'm going to go away. 37 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,000 I'm going to go away. 38 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,000 I'm going to go away. 39 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,000 Go away! 40 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:22,000 Now, Steve Lee reports a bizarre physical manifestation of the haunting. 41 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,000 One morning, my head just started swelling up. 42 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,000 That's when they took me to the hospital and they did the cascades. 43 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:34,000 And the doctor said there was no bruise there, no cut or nothing. 44 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,000 So far, Steve and Beth Lee's search for an explanation 45 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,000 has cost them their life savings and their peace of mind. 46 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,000 Our initial Sightings investigation confirmed 47 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,000 that the haunting is real. 48 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,000 There were the anomalous sounds from Steve's police scanner. 49 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,000 A camera fell over without explanation. 50 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,000 It just took a header right off the tripod and landed. 51 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:01,000 And there were a number of unusual equipment failures. 52 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:06,000 It's fall now, a little more than six months since that first visit, 53 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,000 and there's a change in the wind. 54 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:15,000 But inside, I found there's been no change in the disturbing haunting activity. 55 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,000 How often are things happening in this house? 56 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,000 Every single night. 57 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,000 Every night? 58 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,000 Every single night. 59 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:28,000 And Steve and Beth can no longer shelter their boys from the paranormal phenomena. 60 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,000 Steve, what kinds of strange stuff have you seen around your house? 61 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:37,000 Lights, shadows in my room. 62 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:45,000 When I was watching TV, TV kept going on and off and just strange things. 63 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,000 Why do you stay here with your kids and with these types of things happening? 64 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:53,000 Because we want it solved and we want to keep our house. 65 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,000 Until you sit in our shoes, you want to understand. 66 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,000 That's the best way to explain it. 67 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,000 I've been through so much, I'm not going to move. 68 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:06,000 Steve believes that if the family moves, the entity, as captured in these photos, wins. 69 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:12,000 He and Beth have spent more than $30,000 on surveillance equipment and other high-tech devices, 70 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,000 searching for an explanation. 71 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,000 But when sighting suggested an in-depth psychic investigation, 72 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,000 the family who said they would try anything wanted to sleep on it. 73 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,000 The next morning, they agreed. 74 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,000 Peter James is coming here. 75 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,000 What are you hoping he can do or tell you? 76 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:38,000 I'm a little bit more open-minded than he is as far as believing some things from the spiritual world. 77 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:45,000 But I hope that what he can do is explain some things that are happening. 78 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:51,000 Peter James has been given no information about what's transpired in the Lee home. 79 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:56,000 But as soon as he steps out of the car, Peter senses why we've brought him here. 80 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:00,000 There's a lot of death around here. There is a lot of activity here. 81 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,000 Inside, Steve keeps his distance as Peter begins his survey. 82 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,000 Who's here? Identify yourself. 83 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,000 Peter is immediately drawn upstairs to the master bedroom. 84 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:16,000 During our previous sightings investigation, paranormal researchers identified this bedroom 85 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:20,000 as one of three significant areas of haunting activity. 86 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,000 Right here. Feel it? Something just touched me there. 87 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,000 Feel it? 88 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,000 I feel cold. I also feel it right here. 89 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,000 He's at cold spot. 90 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:33,000 When Peter begins to feel the pull of an energy vortex, the Lees begin to listen. 91 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:42,000 But it feels like someone has their arms around my legs right now. 92 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:46,000 And I'm chilled to the bone right now. 93 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:52,000 Then Peter begins to feel an overpowering presence of something chemical or medicinal in the air. 94 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,000 He believes this has a connection to the haunting. 95 00:05:55,000 --> 00:06:00,000 It's a psychic impression that catches Steve completely by surprise. 96 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:05,000 There's a chemical smell. I smell something old like... 97 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,000 You get goosebumps? I get chills. 98 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:13,000 When Peter feels he's connected with the entity responsible for the haunting, he proposes a name. 99 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,000 How's the name of Howard? 100 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:21,000 The old, you know, the Howard one, there's no... I mean, that's so personal between us and Sunreal. 101 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:25,000 There's no possible way on God's earth you couldn't know anyone. 102 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:29,000 Do you ever feel that Howard is trying to protect you? 103 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,000 Yes. Very much so. 104 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,000 Because that's what I'm saying. 105 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,000 Does that make sense to you? 106 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,000 Yeah. 107 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,000 That's what I said. That's a good thing. 108 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,000 That's a good thing. 109 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,000 Very much so. 110 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,000 But Peter can't seem to take a break from the psychic impressions flooding his mind. 111 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:49,000 Is there anyone around here that was a pharmacist? 112 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,000 That's too much, isn't it? 113 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,000 Yes or no? Yes or no? Tell me. 114 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,000 Howard was very involved in that kind of stuff. 115 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,000 Beth, who is Howard? 116 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:08,000 I have a little adopted granddaddy here in town that I have guardianship of that we've taken care of for like 10 years now or more. 117 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,000 And his name is Howard. 118 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:19,000 And he had a son that we did not know, but that he died in the 60s of a drug overdose. 119 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:24,000 And his best friend's dad was a doctor and into pharmacist work. 120 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,000 And they would steal prescriptions. 121 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:33,000 The son's name is Howard Jr., the Howard that Peter has felt so strongly in the Lee home. 122 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:37,000 Peter returns to the bedroom to try to make contact. 123 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,000 There's that chemical smell again. 124 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,000 And you know what? I believe that Howard is with me right now. 125 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,000 He's very protective of them. 126 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,000 And, but I... 127 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,000 Actually, no, wait, I smell it this time. 128 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,000 Smell it? 129 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,000 Yes, I do smell something. 130 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,000 A burning kind of chemical? 131 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,000 Howard is here. 132 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,000 Peter says that Howard has entered through the energy vortex. 133 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,000 Right in here. 134 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,000 Right there? 135 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,000 Yeah. 136 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:11,000 Peter believes it's a rip in the fabric of time that allows spirits to move from their plane into ours. 137 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,000 They're coming through like right here. 138 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:19,000 Peter feels that Howard Jr. wants to make contact with the Lee's because of their connection to his father. 139 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:28,000 Howard has unfinished business on earth and feels that the Lee's can help him communicate that he did not die of a drug overdose. 140 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,000 We're talking murder. 141 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,000 Yeah. 142 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:38,000 And this is what I really feel, why he's here and why he's trying to convey this message to me now. 143 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:43,000 To make the haunting stop, Peter says the Lee's must appease Howard. 144 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:49,000 And in fact, they are finding many suspicious circumstances surrounding Howard's death. 145 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,000 Well, I guess I'm a little bit more open minded about it now. 146 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,000 I mean, there's things that there's no way he could have known. 147 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,000 I mean, there's just no way a guy could have known. 148 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,000 I guess I have to believe now. 149 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:12,000 Before he left, Peter reassured the Lee's that Howard is not a vindictive entity and that he may actually be protecting the family from other spirits who have squeezed through the vortex. 150 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:18,000 The Lee's hope that if they can put one spirit to rest, the others may soon follow. 151 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:25,000 The Lee family believes that Peter James has gotten closer to the source of the haunting activity than any other paranormal investigator. 152 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:29,000 But both Peter and the Lee's feel that his work there is not complete. 153 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:33,000 We hope to bring you more from the house on a future broadcast. 154 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:54,000 According to a Time Magazine survey, more than two out of three Americans believe in angels. 155 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,000 Among them, the Skidmore family of Mesa, Arizona. 156 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:03,000 But simple statistics can't begin to measure the power that the Skidmore's belief in angels has had on their lives. 157 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:08,000 It was a belief that was sorely tested on the day three-year-old Sarah disappeared. 158 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:28,000 In the fall of 1986, the desert quiet and tranquility of Mesa, Arizona seemed like nothing more than a barrage. 159 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:34,000 The family town was rocked by the kidnapping of one of its own, three-year-old Sarah Skidmore. 160 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:46,000 She was kind of a bouncy little kid, always in the trouble, always jumping on, always wanting hugs and kisses and jumping on you and mollying you. 161 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,000 She was always fun. 162 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:54,000 The day that Sarah was kidnapped, everything changed, everything was different. 163 00:10:54,000 --> 00:11:00,000 It was just unimaginable. 164 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:10,000 On Tuesday, October 7th, 1986, Rhonda Skidmore received an urgent call from her five-year-old son Robert's school. 165 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,000 I had to go to the school to help Robert. 166 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:18,000 And so I took some things into the school and I left my little kids in the car. 167 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:34,000 When I came back, the little boy in the car that had been babysitting, I said, a man took Sarah out of the car and he was serious. 168 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,000 And I looked around and she was nowhere. 169 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:43,000 For the first 48 hours, state police conducted an exhaustive search for Sarah and her kidnapper. 170 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:48,000 He was described by an eyewitness as a heavy-set bearded man wearing a baseball cap. 171 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:55,000 After Sarah disappeared, our other children were questioning, wondering where she was, asking if she was going to get some dinner. 172 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,000 What is Sarah having for dinner tonight? 173 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,000 Is Sarah hungry? 174 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,000 Where is Sarah going to sleep? 175 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,000 She doesn't have her pajamas. 176 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:11,000 Robert went to the front door and just screamed, Sarah, Sarah, trying to call her home. 177 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:20,000 And he did that until his voice was totally spent. 178 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:29,000 After two days, the authorities narrowed their search. 179 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:37,000 There were indications that Sarah's kidnapper may have retreated into the harsh desert backcountry, where there was no water and no shelter from the elements. 180 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:45,000 This incident occurred in the fall time, which in Arizona we see our greatest extremes, the extreme heat, the extreme cold. 181 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:50,000 Children lose heat and become dehydrated very quickly. 182 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:57,000 And it can even progress to a point of unconsciousness, what we call heat stroke, and a large percent of those patients could die. 183 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:02,000 On day three, there was an unusually violent thunderstorm. 184 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:08,000 We actually had one news reporter say, how will you feel when they find her dead body? 185 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,000 The next morning dawned clear and calm. 186 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,000 The skid mowers were praying for a miracle. 187 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:19,000 Zane Bingham did not hear the prayers, but he answered them. 188 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:23,000 I was hunting quail, I hit one. 189 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:29,000 Upon retrieving it, walking up to where it was laying, I picked it up, looked across the wash to the left. 190 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:33,000 Where the rest of the cubby had flown to. 191 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:37,000 And upon doing so, I saw her in the wash looking at me. 192 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:44,000 The closer I got to her, I noticed that she had been out there apparently for a while because she had lots of scratches all over her legs, her arms and everything. 193 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,000 She wasn't walking very good because she was barefooted. 194 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,000 Her feet were tore up. 195 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,000 And I asked her if she wanted me to carry her, and she replied yes. 196 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:57,000 It amazed me that she wasn't crying or whining about nothing, not at all. 197 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,000 Bingham rushed Sarah to the nearest Sheriff's Station. 198 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,000 She was immediately airlifted to Lutheran Hospital in Mesa. 199 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:11,000 Sarah had been abandoned in the desert by her kidnapper, and had spent three days and nights in the desert without food or water. 200 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:17,000 They were very amazed that she survived that Thursday night because it was so cold and it was so windy. 201 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:25,000 And they said that the exposure should have put her in a coma. 202 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:29,000 Because of her weakened condition, she should not have been able to survive it. 203 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,000 Doctors pronounced Sarah's recovery a miracle. 204 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:38,000 A few days later, Sarah herself offered a mysterious clue to her miraculous survival. 205 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:44,000 She didn't really react to it. She recognized this and just kind of stared at it. 206 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,000 And finally she said, I saw Heather playing. 207 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,000 And Heather's her two-year-old younger sister. 208 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:53,000 And that's all she said really so far. 209 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,000 She said, what? 210 00:14:55,000 --> 00:15:00,000 She hasn't said anything other than, I saw Heather playing. 211 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,000 Do you know what she's been playing? 212 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,000 We don't know. 213 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:10,000 Heather was two years old at the time and could not have been playing in the desert alone. 214 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:16,000 The meaning of Sarah's mysterious vision became clear when she began revealing more details of her abduction 215 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:21,000 and the ordeal that began when Sarah's kidnapper abandoned her in the desert. 216 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:25,000 She mentioned that she was really, really hungry, really, really thirsty. 217 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:29,000 And her feet hurt because of all the cactus thorns. 218 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:34,000 And then she started talking about the little girl that she saw in the desert. 219 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:42,000 She had blonde hair and blueish eyes. 220 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:48,000 And she was in white clothes and her hair was about shoulder length a little longer. 221 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:53,000 And she hadn't grown around her. 222 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,000 And she wasn't standing on the ground. 223 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:59,000 She was kind of up in the air. 224 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:04,000 I felt like she was telling me it'd be all right and that I'd be okay. 225 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,000 Sarah was more than a mile from the nearest road. 226 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:13,000 But somehow she found her way to safety by following the angelic vision. 227 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:18,000 She was walking and she saw the little spirit standing there. 228 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:22,000 And it caused her to turn and walk a different direction. 229 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:27,000 And when she walked the other direction, then that's when she found the hunter. 230 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:32,000 And she felt like that that helped her go the right way. 231 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:42,000 A year later, Rhonda Skidmore gave birth to her fifth child, a baby girl named Jessica. 232 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:46,000 When Jessica was three years old, Sarah looked at her baby sister 233 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:51,000 and suddenly realized that it was Jessica, not Heather, who had been her angel. 234 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,000 Sarah just was watching Jessica. 235 00:16:55,000 --> 00:17:03,000 And she said, I feel like Jessica was the one that was in the desert when I needed the help. 236 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,000 I think it was me. 237 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:11,000 I believe my sister, I was her angel. 238 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:18,000 The Skidmore's religious belief in pre-born spirits is gaining a lot of attention among paranormal researchers. 239 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:22,000 After her own encounter with what she believed was a pre-born spirit, 240 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:30,000 Sarah Hines, educator, author, and mother of nine, began compiling similar case studies in her book, Coming from the Light. 241 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:37,000 I found this belief in a pre-more like existence prevalent in a variety of cultures. 242 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:44,000 When these unborn spirits or unborn souls make their appearance known, 243 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,000 they're generally there to deliver a message. 244 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:53,000 And the most prevalent message is that it's time for them to come to Earth. 245 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:59,000 During her research, Hines contacted Paul Perry, a best-selling author and journalist 246 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,000 who is an acknowledged expert in near-death experience. 247 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:06,000 Hines and Perry compared case studies and found an astonishing link. 248 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:10,000 Many survivors of the near-death experience report seeing not only their past, 249 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:14,000 but also spirit beings waiting to be born. 250 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:19,000 Many people who see pre-born spirits in the course of a near-death experience, 251 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:25,000 when they come back, they describe these as being very comforting to see. 252 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:35,000 Sarah truly feels that her unborn sister, Jessica, was the guardian angel that protected her when she was in danger. 253 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:43,000 With the loving support of her family, 12-year-old Sarah Skidmore has healed well from her ordeal in the desert. 254 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:48,000 But she still carries with her clear memories of her miraculous helper. 255 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:56,000 I still think Jessica is my angel because I think that she must love me 256 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:02,000 and I think I love her more just because of what has happened. 257 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:09,000 Sarah Skidmore's recovery in the Arizona desert is a reminder that miracles do occur. 258 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:14,000 It's also a reminder that it only takes a moment for a child to disappear. 259 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:20,000 Next, the latest word on farming body parts, how food was making neighborhoods safer, 260 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:24,000 and later getting beneath the surface of the Shag Harbor mystery. 261 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:31,000 Here are some of the stories Sightings is following in the news. 262 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:36,000 The latest crime figures just out from the Federal Bureau of Investigation are encouraging. 263 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:40,000 The rate and actual number of violent crimes are down. 264 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:44,000 Factors contributing to the decrease include neighborhood watch programs, better policing, 265 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:49,000 and if you talk to one group in New Orleans, voodoo. 266 00:19:55,000 --> 00:20:01,000 In New Orleans, Louisiana, residents in Bywater, a neighborhood perched at the edge of the French Quarter, 267 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:07,000 saw that their historic community was caught in a downward spiral of crime and drug abuse. 268 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:13,000 But people here have not stood idly by. Instead, they have turned to an old New Orleans tradition. 269 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,000 They turned to voodoo. 270 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,000 It just seemed to me that we needed to go to a higher authority. 271 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,000 It was not going to do us any good to just get angry and feel helpless. 272 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:29,000 Sally Ann Glassman has been a student and practitioner of the voodoo religion for more than 20 years. 273 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:33,000 She suggested to her neighbors that they hold a public ceremony. 274 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,000 Call forth what is known in voodoo as Ogoun, the God of War. 275 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:44,000 It was an effort to rid the neighborhood of evil forces, and more than 150 people attended the evening ceremony. 276 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:48,000 At first, a lot of people, especially the criminals out, were very, you know, 277 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:52,000 stay away from me, get away from me. I don't want you near me with that. 278 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:56,000 They're scared of the police. They respect the Loas. 279 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,000 They've grown up around it as part of the culture here. 280 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:03,000 All their lives, their grandmothers have talked about it, their moms and dads have talked about it. 281 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,000 There's a healthy respect for it. 282 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:12,000 Since the first ceremony on August 17, 1995, Glassman has continued to lead weekly rituals 283 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,000 to honor Ogoun and other spirits called Loas. 284 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:20,000 Recent crime statistics seem to add credence to her claims that crime is down. 285 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:29,000 The crime rate has dropped remarkably from about 50 robberies a month of her to 6 to 8 robberies a month. 286 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,000 It's a big difference. 287 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:36,000 While the New Orleans Police Department will not comment on Finewater's unique approach to neighborhood watch, 288 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,000 they can't argue with its apparent success. 289 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:45,000 At least, at the very least, everyone knows that everyone else was willing to hang on to hope 290 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:51,000 and to take this sort of action or any sort of action and to work together. 291 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:55,000 That's a bonding experience. That's what community is supposed to be about. 292 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:05,000 In Boston, Massachusetts, researchers are debating the medical merits and ethical consequences 293 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:11,000 of the world's first bioengineered human body part grown on the back of a laboratory mouse. 294 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:17,000 When I first saw this, I was amazed because here we are, we're growing human tissue on a mouse 295 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,000 and it's got the shape of an organ. I've never seen anything like this before. 296 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:28,000 The ear was constructed from biodegradable fibers and human cartilage cells donated by the intended recipient. 297 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:32,000 It was then implanted under the skin of a hairless mouse where it took shape. 298 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:36,000 The ear will be ready for human transplantation in two years. 299 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:41,000 We're going to start with simple things first. Replacing the skin of somebody who's been severely burned, 300 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:49,000 fixing worn out knees, and after that we're going to move on to more complex organs and start replacing those. 301 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,000 We've got a long way to go before we can farm a body. 302 00:22:53,000 --> 00:23:01,000 For doctors and others concerned with medical ethics, the dilemma is not when will mass body part farming begin, 303 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,000 but should it? 304 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:07,000 What are the limits to which we are going to go to fix people? 305 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:14,000 Do we want to put our resources into replacing organs, replacing pieces of people, 306 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:19,000 or do we want to put our resources into keeping people healthy in the first place? 307 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,000 You could say that tiny Rachel Nevada is the town that aliens built. 308 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:33,000 Rachel has become the unofficial watering hole for amateur ufologists eager for a close encounter of any kind. 309 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:40,000 And in September 1995, the Nevada State Assembly passed a bill to officially redesign Rachel's main drag, 310 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:45,000 State Highway 375, as Nevada's extraterrestrial alien highway. 311 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:50,000 It's an apt name, legislators argued, for a ron that borders Area 51, 312 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:54,000 the reputed site for many top secret government spacecraft projects, 313 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:58,000 and the site of frequent UFO sightings. 314 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,000 After a push from legislators and the state tourism office, 315 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:10,000 the Nevada State Transportation Board has agreed to put up new extraterrestrial highway signs beginning in the spring of 1996. 316 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:14,000 Governor Bob Miller has suggested that the signs be placed flat on the ground, 317 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:18,000 so that aliens can see them and know where to land. 318 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:25,000 We'll have more stories from the news next time. 319 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,000 Now, here's what's coming up on sightings. 320 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:34,000 Will Shag Harbor give up the secret of what crashed here nearly 30 years ago? 321 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:40,000 Later, he's the father of the theory that revolutionized our view of a world he calls Gaia. 322 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,000 The Earth has properties like those of the living organs. 323 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,000 We'll be right back. 324 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:55,000 Recently, we brought you a report on the mysterious crash of a suspected UFO in Shag Harbor, Nova Scotia. 325 00:24:55,000 --> 00:25:01,000 Working with Canadian researcher Chris Stiles, sightings has uncovered startling new government reports, 326 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,000 and has interviewed key eyewitnesses. 327 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:07,000 There's enough evidence here to warrant a new kind of sightings investigation, 328 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,000 our first UFO salvage operation. 329 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:21,000 Whatever crashed into Shag Harbor nearly 30 years ago was seen by many eyewitnesses, 330 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,000 who have all come forward with strikingly similar descriptions of the incident. 331 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:30,000 An unusual object described as being 60 feet in diameter with four bright white lights 332 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:35,000 was seen to hover in the sky over the Shag Harbor area, tilted at a 45-degree angle, 333 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:39,000 and then dropped into the sky at the surface of the water. 334 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:44,000 Eventually, the Coast Guard, Rescue Coordination Center, Navy and RCAF 335 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,000 were brought into the search effort for the object responsible. 336 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:52,000 Chris Stiles has conducted an exhaustive search for documentation regarding the historic 337 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,000 and mysterious crash of October 4, 1967. 338 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,000 He has found a significant government paper trail. 339 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:03,000 The Navy did have a strong expectation of finding artifacts. 340 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:08,000 In the document, it actually names a scientific consultant who was on standby 341 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,000 to receive debris. 342 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,000 The search conducted by the Navy concentrated in this area. 343 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:21,000 In October 1995, sightings launched its first ever salvage operation under the direction of Chris Stiles. 344 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:26,000 Our goal was to locate and retrieve any pieces of UFO wreckage large enough 345 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,000 to have resisted the forceful tides and currents in Shag Harbor. 346 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,000 By all accounts, the odds were stacked against us. 347 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:38,000 But this operation would offer a unique opportunity to apply scientific methods 348 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,000 to an incident rife with rumor and conjecture. 349 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,000 If debris could be found, our team would fight. 350 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:50,000 We hope to take the searched areas beyond the former military search 351 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,000 and perhaps check out some of these target detections 352 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:59,000 and the impact site which was actually outside of the search already conducted by the Navy. 353 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,000 28 years have passed since the crash at Shag Harbor. 354 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,000 Time was not on our side. 355 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:11,000 But state of the art detection equipment unimagined in 1967 would improve our chances. 356 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,000 Prepare for tracking sequence at heading 159. Over. 357 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:21,000 There is 500 kilohertz digital side scan sonar for seabed profiling and target detection. 358 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,000 Aerial trajectory plotting. 359 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,000 Roger survey one, commencing sequence over. 360 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,000 A towed array GEM magnetometer for underwater metal detection 361 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:38,000 and a GPS satellite tracking system to pinpoint potential targets. 362 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:48,000 Our intention was to scan and search three main areas of the ocean floor in the waters off Shag Harbor. 363 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,000 These areas corresponded to eyewitness recollections 364 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:56,000 and coordinates taken from a document reporting where the initial government search took place 365 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,000 in 1967. 366 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:03,000 Sonar buoy drops out of nearby Canadian forces base Greenwood 367 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:08,000 and the magnetic anomaly detection grid at the nearby Shelburne base 368 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,000 which was the coordination center for submarine detection in the Atlantic 369 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:17,000 led the authorities to believe that perhaps the largely intact object was still moving under the water. 370 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,000 But where it came to rest remains a mystery. 371 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:25,000 Reports that wreckage was recovered from Shag Harbor on the night of the crash 372 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,000 dictate that we begin our operation there. 373 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,000 Man at the base had told me that it was probably the most intense thing 374 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:37,000 next to the Cuban missile crisis which left the base on alert for 34 days. 375 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:43,000 The sightings investigation heads out to sea after months of on shore planning. 376 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:49,000 The three targeted areas are scanned for potential pieces of wreckage called targets 377 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,000 and each target is given a priority designation. 378 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:58,000 We were able to lay down an extensive grid pattern and pick up numerous target detections 379 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,000 which we gave an assessment value for high strangeness. 380 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,000 Very simple system one two or three. 381 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,000 The initial search shows no high priority targets in area one 382 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,000 the section of ocean shore closest to the Nova Scotia mainland. 383 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,000 Rather than send divers down to investigate lower priority targets 384 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:23,000 the team agrees to move further out and begin a grid pattern search of area two. 385 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:29,000 Attention bridge this is control we have a strong target return. 386 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:35,000 Target detection is one thing going down and confirming what the target is is much harder to indeed. 387 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,000 We were actually getting returns of some of the very large kelp beds 388 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,000 that produced shadows and images that were misleading. 389 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:47,000 The environment presents perhaps the main challenge in doing a thorough search. 390 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,000 Extreme current conditions are almost constant. 391 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,000 What was the current like down there? 392 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,000 The current is going to get worse. 393 00:29:55,000 --> 00:30:00,000 Conditions are deteriorating it's my feeling that we should move on and perhaps check other targets. 394 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,000 But the divers press on eliminating all of the potential targets in area two. 395 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:09,000 The search then moves on to the deeper waters of area three. 396 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:14,000 In area three there are a number of high priority targets worthy of investigation. 397 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,000 The divers begin a systematic search working into the night 398 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,000 when a particularly promising spike hits on radar. 399 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:32,000 In the control room the team watches the divers progress. 400 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,000 Individual propulsion systems and high powered underwater lights 401 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,000 assist the divers who are fighting increasing tidal currents 402 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,000 and a backwash of silt from the ocean floor. 403 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,000 As the divers close in on their bearing 404 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,000 they realize that the ocean currents are distorting sonar readings 405 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:57,000 giving a high priority signal to nothing more than an unusual rock formation. 406 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:02,000 The team is disappointed but Chris Stiles is undaunted. 407 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,000 He has eliminated three crash sites 408 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,000 and can now move forward to another area where some government eyewitnesses have told him 409 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,000 UFO debris may still be found. 410 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,000 I've spoken with several of the divers in the past 411 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,000 and other support naval personnel that were involved in this 412 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:22,000 and early on they told me the story of the Shelburne connection 413 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,000 and it just keeps resurfacing resurfacing. 414 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,000 It's a story that won't go away. 415 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,000 That story when sightings continues. 416 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,000 Next more from our Shag Harbor investigation 417 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,000 and later the future of planet Earth. 418 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,000 There's no possibility of fighting back. 419 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,000 There's only consequences. 420 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,000 Admittedly sightings is searching for an extraterrestrial needle in a haystack 421 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,000 by diving beneath the waters of Shag Harbor, Nova Scotia. 422 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:57,000 Even if the APRO document is a roadmap to a submerged UFO 423 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,000 we don't know what the craft is made out of. 424 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,000 Would UFO debris rust, melt 425 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,000 or could it be that someone has simply beaten us to it? 426 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:18,000 When the sighting search and salvage operation failed to turn up UFO wreckage or debris 427 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,000 in three significant areas off the coast of Shag Harbor 428 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,000 Chris Stiles did not give up his investigation. 429 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,000 He feels there is simply too much information about the mysterious UFO crash 430 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:33,000 of October 4th 1967 to abandon his search for the truth. 431 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,000 First there was consistent testimony from credible eyewitnesses. 432 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:43,000 We see lights moving through the sky that we stopped to be in airplane at first 433 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,000 and there was four in sequence. 434 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,000 One would come on and two and three and four. 435 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:54,000 There was reddish-orange in color and they seemed to be on about a 45 degree incline 436 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,000 and the lights seemed to be going in the downward motion. 437 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,000 The thing headed down, crashed on the water 438 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,000 and at that time all the lights went off 439 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,000 and one other light came on a few minutes later 440 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,000 and that's the light that was there when I arrived on the scene. 441 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,000 Royal Canadian Mounted Police Officer Ron Pond 442 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,000 not only saw the Shag Harbor UFO 443 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,000 he also interviewed eyewitnesses at the scene. 444 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,000 There were witnesses coming from a variety of directions and in different locations 445 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,000 so there was no way that it was a conspiracy 446 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,000 or any kind of an attempt to mislead anybody. 447 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,000 It was definitely something that came down in the water. 448 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,000 In addition to credible eyewitnesses 449 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,000 Chris Stiles has uncovered a trail of documentation 450 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,000 leading him to conclude that the US and Canadian governments 451 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,000 knew about and monitored the Shag Harbor UFO. 452 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,000 The more we find the more there is. 453 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,000 I mean sources of even the paper trail of Harley dried up. 454 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,000 And there was this exclusive interview with a member of the Canadian military 455 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,000 who had been debriefed as part of a Shag Harbor Naval Recovery operation. 456 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:08,000 I was told that it had hit the water, crash landed in trouble 457 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,000 and had actually moved under water 458 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:14,000 and I think that was one of the more interesting points that I found of the whole story 459 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,000 because this thing was not only aerodynamic but hydro. 460 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:21,000 Dynamic also has had the capacity to travel in two mediums. 461 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:25,000 According to this source, the UFO continued traveling under water 462 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,000 and finally came to rest several miles from the impact site. 463 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:33,000 Near where the UFO had moved there was a high top secret 464 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,000 listening post for submarine detection. 465 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:40,000 This claim of a second location of an unidentified flying object 466 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:44,000 resting on the bottom somewhere off government point in the water 467 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:49,000 is very interesting because this location was the spot 468 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,000 where Canadian forces stationed Shelburne was located. 469 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,000 It is quite possible that there is something laying down there 470 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,000 somewhere between the crash site and the site that had moved. 471 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,000 It's hard to move that amount of physical energy around 472 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,000 and not leave some sort of a trace. 473 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,000 Because sightings initial scientific search of Shag Harbor 474 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,000 failed to turn up any debris, 475 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:16,000 Stiles is now exploring the possibility that the crash site was 25 miles to the north near Shelburne. 476 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:22,000 It was here that a second Navy dive reportedly took place on the night of the crash. 477 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,000 When I spoke to the divers and support personnel early on, 478 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,000 they told me that at the Shelburne into the operation 479 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:34,000 where they sat over this craft for a week that it was on the bottom 480 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,000 and that there was still activity in it. 481 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,000 Furthermore, there was a second craft there which was landing assistance. 482 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,000 They believed that this was a vehicle of extraterrestrial origin. 483 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,000 These men had plenty of experience. 484 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:50,000 Their commanding officer would debrief them and tell them not to open the mouth. 485 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,000 The story would not be discussed again. 486 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:58,000 I can only imagine that he would assign some people to ensure that those people do keep quiet. 487 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,000 Although he has uncovered a mountain of documentation confirming 488 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,000 civilian sightings of the Shag Harbor UFO, 489 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:11,000 Stiles has found almost nothing on paper to confirm military operations in Shelburne or Government Point. 490 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,000 I've looked at some unique strategies and tried to be creative. 491 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:21,000 For example, off Government Point there's an area called the Nut Island which has a manned lighthouse. 492 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:28,000 I attempted to obtain the lighthouse logs thinking that perhaps any naval operation that kept ships in the area for seven days 493 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,000 would show in the light keepers records. 494 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,000 These were not forthcoming. 495 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:38,000 Attempts with the Coast Guard to get these seem to indicate that these records were lost. 496 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:43,000 It seems that I could get earlier records and those after by October's were missing. 497 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:50,000 It is Stiles' belief that considerable work remains to be done in the Shag Harbor UFO investigation. 498 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:57,000 Raw data needs to be analyzed further and uncharted target sites offshore must be scanned. 499 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:02,000 The elimination of three potential impact sites during the first sighting salvage operation 500 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:07,000 is only the first step to what may be a very long road. 501 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,000 Shag Harbor is still a mystery. 502 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:15,000 However, I feel that this case will reveal a lot about the nature of the UFO phenomena 503 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:21,000 and may have some answers that even challenge our established belief systems. 504 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:28,000 It's only been since late 1994 that the Canadian military has allowed civilian operations in the waters off Government Point. 505 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:34,000 Chris Stiles now plans to focus future operations in the area near Shelbourne, Nova Scotia. 506 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,000 Next, what can we learn from James Lovelock's Gaia theory? 507 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:44,000 The man and woman in the street understand Gaia far better than my colleagues do. 508 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:54,000 On past programs, we've introduced you to a number of people who support the Gaia theory, 509 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,000 that the Earth is an organism with its own intelligence. 510 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:04,000 Now, sighting correspondent Carla Wall interviews the father of the Gaia theory, James Lovelock. 511 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:11,000 It's been more than 20 years since he first introduced his groundbreaking Gaia hypothesis. 512 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:19,000 Today, inventor scientist James Lovelock and his wife Sandy live and work on a 35-acre estate in the Cornish Highlands, 513 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,000 which he's preserving as a wildlife habitat. 514 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,000 How did you come up with the Gaia theory? 515 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,000 Well, I was very fortunate in 1961. 516 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,000 I got a letter from the Director of Space Flight Operations of NASA. 517 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:37,000 They wanted to use my gadgets, these sensitive devices, for analyzing the lunar soil 518 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:41,000 to see if it would be safe for astronauts to go there. 519 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:47,000 But it wasn't long before I became interested in the next big step, which was to go to Mars. 520 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:51,000 And the question, how do you find if there's life there? 521 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:55,000 Lovelock determined that Mars was almost certainly lifeless, 522 00:38:55,000 --> 00:39:02,000 because its atmospheric composition was static, in contrast to Earth's composite parts, which are highly volatile. 523 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:08,000 So I then thought, well, if it's an atmosphere like that, highly unstable, 524 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:13,000 something must be keeping it constant, because it couldn't stay constant on its own. 525 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:19,000 And that set me thinking about a regulating system at the Earth's surface, which presumably was life itself. 526 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:24,000 And then this idea of Gaia was born in my mind. 527 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,000 Since then, Lovelock's Gaia theory has been embraced and embellished on 528 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,000 by scientists, environmentalists, and new age philosophers 529 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:39,000 who believe Gaia is a sentient being with the capacity for intelligence, emotion, even vengeance. 530 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:43,000 I don't really now regard the Earth as a living organism. 531 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:48,000 I think in the early days of Gaia, we used the term the Earth is Alive metaphorically. 532 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:53,000 What we meant was that the Earth has properties like those of a living organism. 533 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,000 It's able to regulate its temperature, and it's able to regulate its chemistry. 534 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,000 And that was what we meant by it. 535 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,000 Do you think of the theories that are now coming out? 536 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:09,000 People call it Gaia's revenge, that the Earth is fighting back with diseases like AIDS and Ebola, 537 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,000 and getting rid of the human parasite? 538 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,000 Oh, I don't like it one bit. 539 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:18,000 Gaia is in no way sentient. 540 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:23,000 Not at all. There's no possibility of fighting back. There's only consequences. 541 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:27,000 While he does not regard the Earth as an angry, vengeful planet, 542 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:32,000 the father of the Gaia theory is deeply concerned by humankind's apparent disregard 543 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:37,000 for the delicate balance between our planet and her life-sustaining atmosphere. 544 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,000 What is the greatest danger to us right now? 545 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:45,000 If you're talking about human dangers, we're now talking in terms of hundreds of years, 546 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,000 not billions or billions of years. 547 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,000 There's a distinct possibility that a large chunk of ice, 548 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:55,000 which is supported above the water by a ridge in Antarctica, 549 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:59,000 and it's called the West Antarctic Ice Sheet, may slip off into the ocean. 550 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:04,000 It did so 120,000 years ago during another interglace. 551 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:10,000 And if we go on warming the Earth, adding CO2 and things, it may well slip off again. 552 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:16,000 When it does, it's estimated there will be a maximum rise of sea level of about 15 feet. 553 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:21,000 But even if only a part of it drops, there's only a rise of five feet of sea level, 554 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:26,000 this would be enough to take out many of the major cities around the world. 555 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:31,000 London would certainly go, New York would be gravely under threat, 556 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:36,000 Houston would probably go, Miami, all sorts of cities. 557 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:40,000 Is there anything that we can do to slow that process, or is it inevitable? 558 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,000 I honestly don't think as much we can do to slow it. 559 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:48,000 I think it would be too difficult to get all of the nations of the world together 560 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,000 to say we're going to stop burning fossil fuels. 561 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:56,000 And we'll just have to hope that the cooling off towards the next ice age 562 00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:00,000 offsets the global warming due to the CO2 increase. 563 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,000 But it's not a very hopeful sort. 564 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:07,000 But Lovelock does find hope in the fact that the average person's environmental awareness 565 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:12,000 is much greater now than it was when he first proposed the Gaia Theory nearly 25 years ago. 566 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:17,000 I've always found that the man and woman in the street 567 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:21,000 understand Gaia far better than my colleagues do. 568 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,000 The rules are quite simple. 569 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:28,000 If you live well with the environment and improve it, you improve the chances for your progeny. 570 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:33,000 And that means, according to Darwin, your species will survive and flourish. 571 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,000 If you do things that are bad for the environment, your species is doomed. 572 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:44,000 The overriding message in Lovelock's work is that Gaia is tough, but not indestructible. 573 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:48,000 Gaia can heal if we can just stop making her sicker. 574 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:14,000 Until next time, remember, no mystery is closed to an open mind. 575 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,000 For Sightings, I'm Tim White. 576 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,000 Sighting World, chain reactions of Sightfives greatest hits. 577 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,000 Weekdays 11 to 4, Eastern and Pacific on Sightfives. 578 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:11,000 Sighting World